NO DEAL! Tsuu T’ina First Nation Members Vote Against SW Ring Road
July 1st, 2009Over 700 Tsuu T’ina band members voted earlier today on the SW ring road deal and only 38% voted in favor of selling over 400 hectares of reserve land to the Alberta Government for the construction of the massive ring road project. Details of the proposal were not made public but the Calgary Herald obtained documents showing the Provincial Government offering up to $275M with a minimum $240M held in trust by the Federal Government. The band would have also received 2000 hectares of crown land on the northwestern border of the reserve in exchange for 400 hectares needed for the construction of the roadway.
“The agreement did not guarantee that the Nation would receive additional reserve land,” Chief Big Plume said in a news release following the vote, “Tsuu T’ina tried to solve that problem at the negotiating table. We regret that we were unable to do so.”
The City of Calgary will now have to work on an alternative plan with the Provincial Government and decide if the SW portion of the ring road will ever be built. Alberta Transportation planners have been looking at constructing a SW freeway like the ring road since the 1960’s and with today’s vote it may be another 50 years before we have improved north-south corridors in the Calgary area.
I’ve read on the forums about this proposal, and I think it just might work. Instead of transferring $275 to the Tsuu T’ina band, why not buy up all the properties in Lakeview along 37th street and tunnel under the weaslehead area? Of course with the alignment of the ring road running along 37th street there will be no more access to the Grey Eagle casino on the Tsuu T’ina reserve from Calgary but I say we leave that problem to the band members to deal with.
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I thought calgary was supposed to have the ring road when tsuu tina got they’re casino? i see they’re casino is up and running and calgary’s working citizens get nothing from that deal? i guess that what you get with a city counsel that lacks the balls to stand up for themselves or for anyone at all. To be fair the blame shouldn’t just be placed on our city counsel, the alberta governing body was supposed to have helped with the deal but the on going political pissing match between steady eddy and our bullying bronco leave no winners.
personally i think a simple blockade in front of the gray eagle casino for a couple months would help them tsuu tina nations see what deal actually means.
I agree, over or under the Res is fine with me but definately the Tsu Tina has made a serious blunder in this cat and mouse game they have been playing for close to 50 years…forget about access to their casino off of Glenmore or 37th. A long drive from Anderson can hopefully be expected
fuck them, shut down any road leading from calgary into tsuu tsina buy up all the surrounding land and do the same and wait them out - theyll get tired of being greedy and take a lesser deal when they realise that they need this road too. im sick of the handouts, time for some tough love
I think we need to cut off all power and water to the casino. That would make for good posturing don’tcha think?
[...] that the province is not going to resume talks with the Tsuu T’ina Nation after the band voted against the Ring Road proposal. Instead the Municipal and Provincial Governments will work together to fund the expansion of [...]
Like most websites with news on this topic the responses are typically ill-informed, lacking in debate and meaningful alternatives, and in some cases exhibit thinly veiled racism. The only difference here is that the writer of this web piece falls into this same quagmire. Sir, if you believe that it is the nation’s problem to worry about access to their reserve you are simply another link in the chain of fools that has created the situation of animosity, ignominy, and greed that exists between Tsuu T’ina and the City of Calgary. Both parties have a responsibility to their constituents (the band councillors were elected FYI, unlike AB Transportation) to work with each other for a mutually beneficial result.
Also, there will be no weaselhead option as that land in under dispute as to whether or not it belongs to the TT Nation(Treaty land dispute) and that needs to be settled before any works can commence in that area. This process could take decades to resolve unless the federal and provincial gov’ts puts their foot to the gas. Get informed, you obviously have time on your hands, take some responsiblity and get a clue. I think you will be surprised at the history between the City and TT.
Not Surprised:
You are correct, both parties do have a responsibility to their constituents and my opinion as a taxpayer is that the best solution right now is to build an interchange at 37th street and Glenmore Trail which may or may not include access roads to the Grey Eagle casino. I also feel that if such access is granted, the additional costs of providing such access should be paid for by the Tsuu T’ina band.
Since you are so well informed, please provide some links to information regarding this Tsuu T’ina / Weaselhead land dispute as I have not heard about this (nor have I read about it in any local media).
its not about the money its our land and we could do whatever we want with it you fucking people already took all of canada from us. so your the greedy fucks that want too take everything. so go back and pay your fucking taxes bitches.
and that everybody is the reason they can’t exist with the rest of society. ignorant and stubborn. go have a drink
I really dont think that “we people” took anything from the tsuu tina nation. If you are referring to the european settlers that came to Canada and made this land their home, then you need to give your head a shake.
I will not be held responsible or accountable for the actions of european settlers that took place too many generations ago to even trace. My family came to Canada long after the land was “stolen” from you. So please explain to me why my tax dollars contribute to the self destruction of your kind, when my forefathers had nothing to do with the “taking” of your land.
If you want to take that stance, then please feel free to seperate yourself from “our culture.” Do not drive on our roads, do not drink our filtered water, and dont take advantage of the free schooling made available to you (which is a clear waste of money).
Your anscestors must be rolling in their graves.
haha thats funny just keep destroying the earth like you already have its your way or no way am i correct. just because we said noo because we wanted to keep our land. you people get all pissy just let it go if we wanted the money we would have taken it but since we only have this little peace of land and white people pretty much have the fucking world i dont really see why you guys are making a big deal about this road.
it’s funny that after tsuu tina nations turned down the deal, Calgary went on and began new plan then tsuu tine came back whining that they wanted to continue talks. Calgary has 210 people per square KM, tsuu tina nations has 9 people per square KM. you obviously have enough land that the people of Canada offered to you in 1877. Our ancestors could have done like the USA did and just take the land and offer your citizenship. so be thankful you have any land at all. the whole point of the aboriginal treaties was to give natives as much legislation as anyone else has, instead is seems like it just created a culture of whinny drunks who are nothing but a burden on the tax payers of Canada
I believe that if Canada eliminated treaty 7 (i think that’s the one) natives would stop drinking themselves to death and would become a working member of society and would be asking for the ring road through their land so they could actually get to work like the rest of us.
[...] the Tsuu T’ina Nation voted against the Ring Road deal, The City of Calgary promised quick actions on a Plan B and today it has announced plans to [...]
All i have to say is “karma” to you Fuckingsuckers. Oh wait to late for that your entire race is uneducated andplagued with addictions. Your ignorant greedy attitude will only get you so far. We all know it has nothing to do with your precious land cuz all the native land is a dump and not taken care of anyways. This is all about soaking the white man for all there worth and im glad negotiations are done so i hope you realize the consequences of your greed as you live out your life in poverty
And by the way we are making a big deal about this road because we do have to get to a little thing called work we go to everyday. I guess if all of us just sat home drinking and stealing stuff all day we wouldent really need this road would we?? hmmm. You are very lucky i am not in charge of society cuz i would reclaim that land by force and pave a beautiful ten land freeway over it and make sure the bulldozer starts with your house
First off Who the fuck are you to tell the city what it can do with it’s land!!!!!!! We let you build a connecter so people could get to your faggot ass casino for free!!!!!! I think it’s gonna be funny when the only people going there are gonna be indians spending the good old welfare cheque!!!!! So enjoy it while you can cause we will be closing that intersection up then maybe we will “make a deal” with you on good faith then we will dick around for 40 years just like you fucking retards then tell you to go find a nice big sandpile, a hammer and then you can pound all that sand right up your ass
[...] the Tsuu T’ina nation surprised Calgarians (and Premier Ed Stelmach) by voting against the proposal that would have saw the SW portion of the [...]
I was born in Canada and so was my mother and Father. Indians were also born here in Canada so why am I not also considered a native of Canada?
So why do they (Indians) get special treatment, Is it because of the color of their skin or race (bloodline), If it is so isn’t that racism?
As we did in the past to rid ourselves of another “blood sucking” monarchy (The King, ROYALTY) we may need to start another revolution to rid ourselves of another old and outdated monarchy which is also based upon bloodline which is the Indian.
Indians should have no more rights or privileges than any other Canadian irregardless of any deals made in the past. Those Treaty “rights” are just as revolkable as our rights. If the government needs my property they can force me off of it, if there is a war I can be forced to go to war, and I am also forced to pay taxes. We do not have rights, just privileges.
On not having access to your precious Indian casino the suggestion is to build a new highway to it from across your lands at your expense fuckheads!
fucking useless indians we should’ve wiped them out way back whatever happened to we came we saw we conquered now all we do is support these lazy good for nothing drunks and drug addicts
I would like to apologize for the lack of compassion and understanding of the people’s comments. I truly believe that Native culture/land/beliefs have been raped and violated: and in return has devastated generations.
It has to stop somewhere, let’s learn from history instead of repeating it!
Shall we relocate them again and cause more ripples in the already stagnant pool of be-trail. This land was given to them. Lets leave it and listen with open ears and open eyes.
The native culture has much to be proud of;
Would you want your home , your only sanctuary destroyed.
Before we comment with intolerance lets walk a mile in each others shoes.
Peace
Those comments are pathetic and discustang. Calkling down a whole rrace of people. What the hell is wrong with u. See white people have no damn respect!
We are strong and proud people and nothing you white people say or do will bring us down. Were still standing! You already tried and it failed.
Here U are trying to take the one little peice of land we have left after u took our whole country. Talk about gready and selfish.